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Saturday, August 30, 2008

Do spayed dogs get hot flashes?

I wrote this up on my personal blog, so in the art of being lazy I am going to copy it here as a Saturday funny-haha-post.
Our first dog, Maggie, was about 6 months old when we adopted her from Capital Area Humane Society. When we adopted her she was intact, but when we picked her up, as we knew would happen, she had been spayed. For the first couple years of her life she slept in a crate at night. But slowly she made her way into our bed. First she took naps, then when I came home from my mastectomy surgery, she slept at my feet (due to the type of surgery I had I had to keep my knees bent so I used her as a way to keep my knees up), and eventually she slept all nights with us. We always made fun of how wish-washy she was about being under the covers one minute, then out and panting, then back under the covers . . . this would go on through the night. When Sasha came into our lives, we noticed that she too, moved in and out of the covers through the night.
I had hot flashes when I started chemo, and they never completely went away though they did lessen with time. Recently, I had my ovaries removed as part of ongoing prevention and also as a way to finalize the decision not to have children. As fully expected, my hot flashes increased both in frequency and intensity. And I noticed that my nightly temperature fluctuations seemed eerily similar to those of Sasha's.
And so I began to wonder...do spayed dogs get hot flashes? (okay I just got a crazy vibe as I read back through this ending with the question that this post sounds like something out of 'Sex and the City'. I can almost hear SJP's voice in my head as I re-read it!).
I have done some preliminary online research and I am not the first to ask this question. However the answers are incredibly unsatisfactory because they mostly fall into a "no they don't because we are removing their ovaries so no estrogen left to go through menopause." Oh yeah? Because let me tell you, my ovaries are completely gone and I have RAGING hot flashes. So this answer just doesn't cut it.
And how would one know? You can't survey a dog. I discussed this with Dr. Mandi here at HELP FIDO , and she immediately had some good questions one could ask a dog: "Do you find yourself trying to lay on cold tile floors? Do you want to hang your head out the window inappropriately in the winter?"
I asked my mother-in-law about her current spayed female, Belle, and her previous spayed female, Chloe (RIP) and she agreed - both dogs exhibited signs consistent with running hot and cold. And neither of her male dogs have.
I don't quite know where I am going with this other that to say that I find it fascinating!

12 comments:

Caveat said...

Well, why woudn't they? They're mammals, we're mammals, we're closely related, we all live together as one big happy family.

I imagine dogs get a lot of symptoms related to a variety of things - headaches come to mind - but due to their extreme stoicism, don't whine about it the way those namby-pamby humans do LOL

Anna Cluxton said...

LOL...yes I definately think they have a much higher tolerance for all things annoying to us :-)
>>goes to put fan on high while suffering through yet another hot flash<<

Jennifer said...

Yes... my 7 year old 100 pound Labrador has HOT FLASHES! I feel them come and go randonly on her head. She was Spayed at 4 months of age. She needs HRT relief. Anyone know anything on this subject? I am searching.

Unknown said...

LOL...our Golden Retriever, also Belle, was spayed at 2 years about 12 weeks after her only pregnancy. We are in SoCal and have a pool. Within the first 2 weeks after spaying she chunked up about 10 pounds (obviously fatter.) Also she started showing up wet to her shoulders several times a day. We discovered she'd trot over to the pool and sit on the second step for about 2 minutes, then get out. Hot Flashes? Wouldn't swim around, just sit. She'll interrupt a game of fetch (with the ball in her mouth) to go sit in the pool. She stopped doing it through the "cold rainy" season in SoCal, but now that it's April she's back doing it 2-3 times a day. Hot Flashes! Even her visiting daughters will follow her to go sit in the pool. Her son Crowley dislikes the pool and won't do it. Now her daughters will come sit in the pool 1-2 times a day, even when Belle doesn't. ("Why do you sit in the pool Indy?" "It's something the women in our family do!" "Why???" "Dunno...")

Unknown said...

I am really concerned because my baby girl is panting excessively and although it is summer time even when it's nice and cool in the trailer she still pants. I don't know if there's something really wrong with her or if it is just hot flashes she has never been spayed and she is 11 years old. She has also started licking me a lot more then earlier in her life she's always been when to lick a lot, but it has really increased with her panting. Anybody have any ideas what my little girl is going through?

Unknown said...

I am really concerned because my baby girl is panting excessively and although it is summer time even when it's nice and cool in the trailer she still pants. I don't know if there's something really wrong with her or if it is just hot flashes she has never been spayed and she is 11 years old. She has also started licking me a lot more then earlier in her life she's always been when to lick a lot, but it has really increased with her panting. Anybody have any ideas what my little girl is going through?

Unknown said...

I'm inclined to say yes. We recently adopted a 10 year old girl who was spayed before the rescue centre would rehome her. She is with us about 6 weeks now and sleeps on our bed. Having gone through menopause myself I know well the symptons. So most nights Akira wakes us up panting on and off for a few hours. I'm saying it hot flushes..my husband thinks I'm mad.

Unknown said...

It was actually my husband that said our 7 yr old havanese IS possibly going through the same symptoms panting and she seems very uncomfortable changing where she sits or lies down every 5 mins ..is this dog menopause and she was spayed when ahe was a pup too

Unknown said...

Yes, I can tell you for sure I have a little Chihuahua that just got spayed and she is having signs of hot flashes. Cold and hot all the time.

Sally Germaine said...

I've just had my 13 year old girl Fayer spayed and I definitely think she is having hot flashes she keeps changing where she sleeps every few minutes she used to sleep at the bottom of the bed with me but alas no more I find rubbing her down with a cold cloth helps her.

Hattie Mayfield said...

I have a 13-year-old Miniature Pincher. Josee Rose. She certainly has hot flashes. I took her to a male veterinarian and he said definitely not, she's a dog. Then I asked a female vet and she said definitely yes. Clearly, the behavior speaks for itself and Josee has all the signs and symptoms of it. I give her cool showers and I use damp cloths I store in my freezer. Also the vet suggested frozen wet dog food popsicles. She really loves those and that seems to settle her down at night before we go to bed when she is constantly in and out under the covers. Josee was spayed when she was a year old. Hattie Mayfield

Dennee said...

Male vets, like too many male gynecologists, don't necessarily know what they are talking about when it comes to female hormones. I've been wondering about the seeming hot-flashes of our newly adopted former puppy-mill rescue (she was a breeder for 6 years), who was recently spayed, and I remembered the hot flashes I had after a hysterectomy. Then I went on hormone replacement therapy, the hot flashes stopped, but I had to go off HRT 14 years later before I could have knee surgery. The hot flashes returned with a vengeance. It's not the estrogen that CAUSES hot flashes, it's going OFF the estrogen! If I remember correctly, it took my body about 6 months to readjust to not having the hormones.

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